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WWRY: Stan

Mensagem  Mariana Couto em Sab Mar 24, 2012 11:19 pm

Queria, desde já agradeçer ao Diogo Silva, que é um usuário do fórum, se não fosse ele, penso que não teria tido a curiosidade de ouvir esta música.
A música que vou partilhar chama-se Stan, é do Eminem em dueto com Dido, do álbum The Marshall Mathers LP, 2000.
Nesta música, é contada a história de um fã (Stan) de Eminem, com uma obsessão extrema pelo cantor.
O seu videoclip mostra Stan a escrever cartas a Eminem, mas estas nunca lhe são correspondidas, com isto, Stan vai ficando cada vez mais desesperado, até que acaba por se suícidar.



Stan

My tea's gone cold I'm wondering why I..
Got out of bed at all
The morning rain clouds up my window..
And I can't see at all
And even if I could it'll all be gray,
But your picture on my wall
It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad..

Dear slim, I wrote but you still ain't callin
I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone at the
Bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not-a got 'em
There probably was a problem at the post office or somethin
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em
But anyways; fuck it, what's been up? man how's your daughter?
My girlfriend's pregnant too, I'm bout to be a father
If I have a daughter, guess what I'ma call her?
I'ma name her bonnie
I read about your uncle ronnie too I'm sorry
I had a friend kill himself over some bitch who didn't want him
I know you probably hear this everyday, but I'm your
Biggest fan
I even got the underground shit that you did with skam
I got a room full of your posters and your pictures man
I like the shit you did with rawkus too, that shit was fat
Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back,
Just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
This is stan

My tea's gone cold I'm wondering why I..
Got out of bed at all
The morning rain clouds up my window..
And I can't see at all
And even if I could it'll all be gray,
But your picture on my wall
It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad..

Dear slim, you still ain't called or wrote, I hope you have a
Chance
I ain't mad - I just think it's fucked up you don't
Answer fans
If you didn't wanna talk to me outside your concert
You didn't have to, but you coulda signed an autograph for
Matthew
That's my little brother man, he's only six years old
We waited in the blistering cold for you,
Four hours and you just said, "no."
That's pretty shitty man - you're like his fuckin idol
He wants to be just like you man, he likes you more than I do
I ain't that mad though, I just don't like bein
Lied to
Remember when we met in denver - you said if
I'd write you
You would write back - see I'm just like you in a way
I never knew my father neither;
He used to always cheat on my mom and beat her
I can relate to what you're saying in your songs
So when I have a shitty day, I drift away and
Put 'em on
Cause I don't really got shit else so that shit helps
When I'm depressed
I even got a tattoo of your name across the chest
Sometimes I even cut myself to see how much it bleeds
It's like adrenaline, the pain is such a sudden rush for me
See everything you say is real, and I respect you cause
You tell it
My girlfriend's jealous cause I talk about you 24/7
But she don't know you like I know you slim,
No one does
She don't know what it was like for people like us growin up
You gotta call me man, I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose
Sincerely yours, stan
p.s. We should be together too

My tea's gone cold I'm wondering why I..
Got out of bed at all
The morning rain clouds up my window..
And I can't see at all
And even if I could it'll all be gray,
But your picture on my wall
It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad..

Dear mister-I'm-too-good-to-call-or-write-my-fans,
This'll be the last package I ever send your ass
It's been six months and still no word - I don't deserve it?
I know you got my last two letters;
I wrote the addresses on 'em perfect
So this is my cassette I'm sending you,
I hope you hear it
I'm in the car right now, I'm doing 90 on the freeway
Hey slim, I drank a fifth of vodka, you dare me to drive?
You know the song by phil collins,
"in the air of the night"
About that guy who coulda saved that other
Guy from drowning
But didn't, then phil saw it all, then at a a show he found him?
That's kinda how this is, you coulda rescued
Me from drowning
Now it's too late - I'm on a 1000 downers now,
I'm drowsy
And all I wanted was a lousy letter or a call
I hope you know I ripped all of your pictures off the wall
I love you slim, we coulda been together, think about it
You ruined it now, I hope you can't
Sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream I hope you can't sleep and you scream about it
I hope your conscience eats at you and you
Can't breathe without me
See slim; [*screaming*] shut up bitch!
I'm tryin to talk!
Hey slim, that's my girlfriend screamin in the trunk
But I didn't slit her throat, I just tied her up, see
I ain't like you
Cause if she suffocates she'll suffer more, and then she'll die too
Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the bridge now
Oh shit, I forgot, how'm I supposed to send this shit out?

My tea's gone cold I'm wondering why I..
Got out of bed at all
The morning rain clouds up my window..
And I can't see at all
And even if I could it'll all be gray,
But your picture on my wall
It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad..

Dear stan, I meant to write you sooner but I just been busy
You said your girlfriend's pregnant now, how far along is she?
Look, I'm really flattered you would call your
Daughter that
And here's an autograph for your brother,
I wrote it on the starter cap
I'm sorry I didn't see you at the show,
I musta missed you
Don't think I did that shit intentionally just to diss you
But what's this shit you said about you like to cut
Your wrists too?
I say that shit just clownin dogg,
C'mon - how fucked up is you?
You got some issues stan, I think you need
Some counseling
To help your ass from bouncing off the walls when
You get down some
And what's this shit about us meant to be together?
That type of shit'll make me not want us
To meet each other
I really think you and your girlfriend need each other
Or maybe you just need to treat her better
I hope you get to read this letter,
I just hope it reaches you in time before you hurt yourself,
I think that you'll be doin just fine
If you relax a little, I'm glad I inspire you but stan
Why are you so mad?
Try to understand, that I do want you as a fan
I just don't want you to do some crazy shit
I seen this one shit on the news a couple weeks ago that
Made me sick
Some dude was drunk and drove his car over a bridge
And had his girlfriend in the trunk, and she was pregnant
With his kid
And in the car they found a tape, but they didn't say
Who it was to
Come to think about, his name was.. it was you
Damn!

Esta música mostra-nos até onde a adoração consegue ir. Na música o Stan já não é apenas um fã, mas sim fanático, obsessivo. A idolatração fê-lo ignorar por completo a sua vida (a sua família: a namorada e o filho que estava prestes a ter), e fê-lo viver num mundo, que para ele deveria ser perfeito, onde apenas existiam ele e o Eminem (metaforizado, de um certo modo, no videoclip como a sua cave). O estado de loucura de Stan evidência-se no seguinte verso "We should be together too" , em que este se declara ao cantor.
Na minha opinião, esta música é um aviso para o público para este tipo de situações.
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Mensagem  Filipa Sousa em Dom Mar 25, 2012 11:02 am

Já não tenho bem a certeza, mas penso que Stan também "mata" a família: a mulher e a filha num acidente de carro. Penso que isso aparece ao longo do vídeo.
É, de facto, de realçar, a realidade desta música, porque este fã existiu mesmo e fez, efetivamente, aquilo que a música diz...
Há fãs que descarregam em cima do "seu mundo"; outros descarregam em cima da sua "estrela". Deixo a título de exemplo, o caso de John Lennon que foi assassinado pelo seu maior fã. Nesse dia, a música perdeu um dos seus maiores cantores...
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Mensagem  Mariana Couto em Dom Mar 25, 2012 12:43 pm

Tens razão, quando se suícidou o Stan levava a namorada no carro com ele.
Quando estava a escrever sobre esta música fiquei muito tempo a pensar se deveria falar do Mark Chapman, o homem que matou o John Lennon, mas acabei por não falar dele porque nesse caso o assasinato não ocorreu devido ao fanatismo, como na música. O homem era um fã do John Lennon e dos Beatles, mas foi por causa de afirmações do cantor, ou dos Beatles (não tenho a certeza), quando disseram que os Beatles eram mais famosos que Deus, que ele o matou. Por isso não dei esse exemplo, mas é realmente um marco na história da música, que se deveu a um fã que, não por razões paranóicas, mas por reacção a certas atitudes do seu ídolo, o matou.
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